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Post by krank on Aug 7, 2014 15:13:48 GMT -6
Help me out.. I get mixed up.......Didn't I post once that we cant go public as a group because we cant agree on a topic amongst ourselves?........ Feb 15th.....no brainer
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Post by tjm on Aug 7, 2014 18:26:09 GMT -6
lol, almost all on here are from NORTH Mo. , imo
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Post by vikesbull on Aug 7, 2014 18:34:58 GMT -6
Dale do you think we otter discuss the season length?
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Post by trapshooter25 on Aug 7, 2014 19:26:34 GMT -6
They should make it so the season for rats, otters, and beavers all end on the same day, so there are no accidental illegal catches.
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Post by krank on Aug 7, 2014 19:59:28 GMT -6
Ks allows incidental muskrat to be saved that are caught in beaver sets rather than mandate their destruction. No Brainer....
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Aug 7, 2014 20:16:45 GMT -6
What a GREAT idea vikes!
Dale
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Post by evertrap on Aug 7, 2014 20:30:01 GMT -6
This is too entertaining to lock down, but it might be a good idea to start another thread to discuss season length and leave this one for the otters. You know, when I get bored, I listen to a good book on my iPod, like The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoevsky (narrated by Robert Whitfield). You can find it at audible.com
Just a thought... if otters don't kill fish for fun, only practice... then when they slide down a slope, climb up and do it again, are they having fun, or just practicing for the Olympics?
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Post by ccreech on Aug 7, 2014 21:39:49 GMT -6
Uhhhh.........OK.
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Post by logger on Aug 8, 2014 5:37:49 GMT -6
This is too entertaining to lock down, but it might be a good idea to start another thread to discuss season length and leave this one for the otters. You know, when I get bored, I listen to a good book on my iPod, like The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoevsky (narrated by Robert Whitfield). You can find it at audible.com Just a thought... if otters don't kill fish for fun, only practice... then when they slide down a slope, climb up and do it again, are they having fun, or just practicing for the Olympics? Lol thanks Linda!!
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Aug 8, 2014 6:46:29 GMT -6
Okay, I'll play Linda- a new thread is comin' up. Dale[/quote] Sounds like you got some otter trapping hotspots Dale!! Do you catch a bunch?
Seems we're edging back to the Treed and Kreed and ladysky era here.
Dale
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Aug 10, 2014 17:05:12 GMT -6
Man, can I kill a topic, or what?
Dale
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Post by bigjohn on Aug 10, 2014 18:41:53 GMT -6
Come on,that's no fun! Just for cuckles I lookrd at MDC's furbearer harvest reports for some of the counties you claim all the fish are gone due to otters.
Phelps county 27 Morgan " 27 Camden " 32 Pulaski " 28 Bates " 41
This leads me to believe that 1.You don't have as many otter as you think or
2. Noone is targeting them or
3. You don't know how to catch them.
Which is it?
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Post by krank on Aug 10, 2014 19:32:21 GMT -6
All three.....The bates Co otter are all down on the osage river basin. Trapping down there has never worked well for me. The river floods at the drop of a hat and the banks are loaded with cockle burs (coons are loaded with burs) and the coondogs sound like its field trial down there. Meth heads too. Somebodies catching otter. Good thing too because those 41 otter could have easily killed 100,000 fish in their combined lifes if they only ate 3 a day. Hopefully they were carp and not bass. Never see otter up here on the high prairie.
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Post by logger on Aug 10, 2014 20:13:03 GMT -6
Looks like they are eating machines to me. I don't see it down here but when I was in New York the small streams loaded with beaver dams were empty of fish. Occasionally find a small Brookie darting out from under a rock for a second but that's it. Still waiting to hear the final decision on if they slide for fun or Olympic training...
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Post by bigjohn on Aug 10, 2014 21:15:43 GMT -6
Don't know where the quote cme from,but if you read it it says CAN eat up to 2 1/2 pounds of fish a day. Fact is that crawfish make up a substantial part of their diet in the summer.That with frogs,mussels,musrats,eggs,and such.No doubt,they are a very efficient predator. Chariton and Saline county had a combined catch of 334 otter and we still have plenty of fish.My self and two other fellas have taken quite a few of those otter in the past years,but didn't target them as much this year.In the last 10 years about 2000 otter have been taken in Chariton county with Clay taking his fair share.That guy can catch the otter!
Beaver dams on trout streams spell death to trout.The dams slow the water down,crearing warmer less oygenated water,something that's bad if your a trout.In many areas,the beaver ar targeted just for that reason alone.
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Post by bigjohn on Aug 10, 2014 21:34:45 GMT -6
Mike,if those creeks in the high prairie find there way to that basin,then they have otter.You just need to learn how to catch them. Otter are showing up more and more in Nebraska and Kansas also.If waters flow from one drainage with otter,then they find their ways into the other drainages.
Even with our large numbers of otters here,I've yet to have an incidental catch of them or muskrats during spring beaver season.Simple matter of setting my triggers together and tight to the side.Footholds get set a foot deep for backfoot catches.
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Aug 10, 2014 23:27:25 GMT -6
Obviously John, it's #3. You're an ass when your losing, you know it? Anyone else tired of this?
Dale
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Post by bigjohn on Aug 11, 2014 4:11:32 GMT -6
Come on Dale,gotta take it if you're going to dish it out
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Aug 11, 2014 7:46:06 GMT -6
But I'm not the ass here. Take a poll. I never question your skills or call you a liar. Lots of ego here- just like the old days. Makes it easy to stay away.
Wish I could make it to the the Rendezvous in the NEW District 7 this year. The internet does not convey our feelings well enough. Not at all.
I take solace in the fact however that some things never change, and in the fact that I KNOW some things never change, so I'm not surprised. Not at all. Bastards.
Dale
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Aug 11, 2014 7:55:41 GMT -6
It's like arguing with the wind.
Dale
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