Beaver Tail Oil

[jiml]

Ok so I tried making some and I'm not sure whats going on.  I chopped up some tails in small chunks, enough to fill a gallon jar loosely.  I drilled a hole in the lid and soldered a copper tube through the hole to act as a vent.  I screwed the lid on and bent the tube over into a small bucket of water, so gas could escape and fly's couldn't lay eggs.  The first couple days everything seemed ok but the vacuum created by the heating and cooling of the jar pulled most of the water from the bucket filling the jar with water.  This has been going on now since early spring.  The jar has some rotted chunks of tail and clear liquid, I assume is water, and the bucket is now overflowing with a reddish brown semi-thick sludge.  My thought was that the oil formed inside the jar but I'm thinking now something went wrong.  Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated as this is my first attempt at making any type of lure.  If this works I have some dried castors and oil sacks I'd like to do something with.

[bigjohn]

Two things come to mind. First you only fill the jar 2/3s full of cut up tails. Second, you only want enough water in the bucket to keep the pipe submerged. Not enough to completely fill the pipe so it can continue to filling the jar.

I fill my jar 2/3 full and put lid on loosely. Next I put the jar in a 5 gal plastic bucket with a tight fitting lid. If you paint the bucket black,it'll absorb more heat. Every couple of weeks you might check the jar lid to insure it didn't seal ,causing pressure to build. Pretty simple really.

Soak the castor in enough vodka to cover so it rehydrates and grind. Mix ground castor with glycerine and use.

[jiml]

Thanks Big John, I figured I messed up somewhere but at least I don't have an exploded glass jar full of goo in my yard I guess.  I'll have to try again I think I still have a tail or two that can go in the jar for a second round.  I'll try the castor mix you talk of as well.  Thanks again.

[krank]

I think the copper tube became a siphon.
Step one....load the jar
Step two.......zing a screw in the lid
step three.....set in sunlight for a long time

After all this screwing around with hoses and screens, I found the drywall screw lets pressure out and leaves no room for a fly to blow eggs from it abdomen into the mix. If in doubt then put the jar inside a gallon jar with the lid half screwed on. Flys blow eggs.....

[Lucky&Bugs]

I only make Small batches but here is my set up very simple.

Rubber tubing, duct tape, pantyhose.

[krank]

That is dark oil! Mine was the color of honey.......That black will settle out if you don't shake it..You can also tie that tube in a knot and fill the knot with water. Works just like a P-trap on a drain under your sink.
Another way to go is to get a fermentation lock at a winemaking store.(they cost like two bucks and fit a gallon jug)
Whatever you do, you can tell if it works by looking for maggots. If your batch has maggots in it then the little devils out foxed you.

[krank]

Six years old.......pleasant aroma......

[bigjohn]

The black oil is what you want. Carefully suck it off with a turkey baster and don't get the lighter stuff under it. I usually extract the black oil leaving about a 1/4 inch of it still on top,to avoid getting the brown/grey stuff.

[Flying Trapper]

OK I'm gonna show my ignorance, what is this used for?

[bverboy]

a lure that works well on canines

[Flying Trapper]

Thanks. Is it applied in a dirt hole I'm assuming?

[krank]

Used in a dirt hole but not limited to only a dirt hole. Some rendered oils make a lure by itself and some oils are a base for a lure to which other scents are added.
My picture was fish oil.

[Flying Trapper]

Thanks for the info but now I have more questions! How do you add scent to it? Meaning how do you get a scent strong enough to compete with the oil? I assume the oil doesn't smell like roses.

[trapperw3]

How long does it take to be ready to use and how much do you use at a set?

[bigjohn]

The hotter the quicker it will start producing the black oil. I usually put the jar in a 5 gal. bucket that I've painted black. That way it gets hotter quicker. I place it in full sunlight also.

Usually 5 to 10 drops is enough on a cotton ball or sheeps wool Paul. If you have a dog,try putting some on a cotton ball and place under a rock. Betcha he digs it up lol.

[krank]

If you started a batch today, it might be ready for season. I don't think beaver tail oil is a lure by itself. It is just a base. Homemade Fish oil (with the sludge) is practically a complete lure..
You go over to the bait and lure maker website and they wont tell you any thing. Them old timers were stingy with their secrets. We are not that way on this site.
I think Willy Mallard posted this years ago and Cletis resurrected it a couple years ago but here we go again.


Coyote Lure:

1 Pint Coyote Urine
1 oz. Civet Musk
1 oz. Beaver Castor
1/8 oz. Asafoetida
1/8 oz. XYOL(also known as White Musk)
1/8 oz. Zinc of Valerate
20 Drops Rhodium Oil
20 Drops Cummin Oil
10 Drops Anise Oil
10 Drops Lovage Oil

Mix well


Bobcat Formula # 1

4 oz. Trout Oil
1/2 Beaver Castor
1/4 oz. Beaver Oil
1/4 oz. Catnip Oil

Mix well and let age 6 weeks.



Bobcat Formula # 2

2 oz. Bobcat Urine
1 oz. Parafine Oil
1 0z. Trout Oil
1/2 oz. Muskrat Musk
1/2 oz. Beaver Castor

Mix well

Mr. Roberts * (Bobcats - Foxes - Coyotes - Raccoons)

1 pint Bobcat Glands
4 oz. Bobcat Urine & Bladder
1/4 oz. Beaver Castor
1 capful Ambrette Musk
4 capful Musk Canton
1 capful Catnip Oil
1 quart Fish Oil
1/4 oz Skunk Musk

* Makes approximately 1/2 gallon of lure

Song Dog Special (Coyotes - Foxes - Raccoons - Oppossums - Skunks)

3 lbs Beef Kidney Mix (let age with ingredients until liquified - grind and blend well)
1 pint Coyote Glands
1 pint Coyote Urine
1 capful Cummings Oil
1 capful Skunk Musk
1 capful Blue Cheese Essence
1/4 capful Tonquin Musk
4 oz. Propylene Glycol

Cat House (Bobcats - Foxes - Coyotes)

4 capful Tonquin Musk
2 capful Canton Musk
1 capful Oil of Fennel
2 capful Catnip
1 capful Ambrette Musk Crystals
4 oz. Fish Oil
(mix in the above state portions for larger quantities)

Leave it to Beaver (Beaver - Muskrat - Mink - Otter - Marten - Fisher - Fox)

4 oz. Beaver Castor
4 oz. Beaver Oil Sacs
1 capful Tonquin Musk
1/2 oz. Ambrette Musk Crystals
1capful Canton Musk
5 drops Lavender Oil
4 drops Oil of Fennel
1 capful Bergamot Oil
6 drops of Sweet Flag Oil
4 oz. Propylene Glycol

Fruit Cocktail (Foxes - Bobcats - Coyotes - Raccoons - Muskrats - Beaver)

4 oz. Grape Essence Oil
1 oz. Perssimon Oil
1/2 oz. Loganberry Oil
1/2 oz. Tonquin Musk Oil
1 capful Canton Musk Oil
4 drops of Lavender Oil
2 drops Oil of Fennel
4 drops Catnip Oil
2 drops Oil of Lovage
1/2 oz Ambrette Musk Crystals
4 oz. Propylene Glycol
4 oz. Lanolin

Bait Formula (Good for all Predators - Age until Liquified)

2 quarts Bobcat Meat
1 quart Rattlesnake Meat
2 quarts Bacon Grease
8 oz. Beaver Castor
4 capfuls Tonquin Musk
10 drops Canton Oil
10 drops Skunk Musk
4 drops Cummings Oil
2 capfuls Ambrette Musk Crystals
4 capful Sodium Benzoate

Food Call Lure 2 ( Good for all Predators - Age until Liquified)

6 oz. Beaver Castor
4 oz. Beaver Oil Sacs
3 capfuls Valerian Oil
1 capful Canton Musk
2 capfuls Tonquin Musk
1 capful Ambrette Musk Crystals
16 drops Skunk Musk
4 drops Orris Root Oil
1 quart Bobcat Meat
6 oz Anhydrous Lanolin

Food Call Lure 1 ( Good for all Predators - Age until Liquified)

1 quart Fish Meat
1 quart Rabbit Meat
10 drops Tonquin Musk
10 drops Orris Root Oil
2 capfuls Valerian Oil
4 capfuls Muscaro Musk
2 capfuls Ambrette Musk
4 capfuls Smoke Essence

Deer Lure ( Use Tarsal Glands of Target Species ie> Whitetail - Blacktail - Mule)

2 Tarsal Glands
8 oz. Propylene Glycol
4 oz. Glycerine
1/4 oz. Tonquin Musk
1 capful Muscaro Musk
1/4 oz. Ambrette Musk
1 capful Valerian Oil
1/2 capful Bergamot Oil

Swamp Music (Muskrat - Beaver - Nutria - Mink)

7 oz Cherry Oil
1/2 oz. Wintergreen Oil
2 oz. Bergamot Oil
1 oz. Ambrette Musk
4 drops Orris Root Oil
1 pint Glycerine Oil
1/2 pint of Propylene Glycol

Buckey Brown (Beaver - Otter - Muskrat - Raccoon - Foxes - Bobcats)

8 oz. Beaver Castor
1 oz. Tonquin Musk
1 oz. Muscaro Musk
1 oz. Ambrette Musk
1/2 oz. Valerian Oil
1/4 oz. Orris Root Oil
1 oz. Bergamot Oil
1 oz. Wintergreen Oil
1 pint Glycerine Oil

Liquid Bait # 1 (Good for all Predators)

1 quart Bobcat Meat
1 oz. Muscaro Musk
1 oz. Ambrette Musk
1 oz. Beaver Castor
1 oz. Valerian Root Oil
1/2 oz. Orris Root Oil
4 oz. Glycerine Oil

Winchester Coyote Gland (Coyotes - Foxes - Bobcats)

1 quart Coyote Glands
1/2 quart Coyote Urine
1/2 quart Propylene Glycol
1/4 capful Rue Oil
1 capful Ambrette Musk
1/4 capful Lovage Oil
1 teaspoon Asafoetida Powder

Ortega Gray Fox Gland (Gray Fox - Coyotes - Bobcats)

1 quart Gray Fox Glands
1 quart Gray Fox Urine
1 pint Glycerine
1 capful Ambrette Musk
1 capful Orris Root Oil
1/4 capful Cummings Oil
4 drops Tonquin Musk Oil

Raccoon Lure #1 (Raccoons - Foxes - Coyotes)

16 oz. Honey
1 can Mackeral (Grind well)
16 oz. Molasses
1 capful Muscaro Musk
6 drops Tonquin Musk
1 capful Valerian Root Oil
10 drops Orris Root Oil
1 capful Ambrette Musk Oil

Barbeque (Coyote - Fox - Bobcats)

1 quart Fish Oil
2 oz. Smoke Essence
1 oz. Blue Cheese Essence
4 drops Tonquin Musk Oil
1 capful Amber Oil
1/2 capful Lovage Oil
1/2 teaspoon Asafoetida Powder
1/2 capful Cummings Oil
1/2 capful Orris Root Oil
8 drops Skunk Musk

Long Distance Call #1 (Coyote - Fox - Bobcat)

1 pint Fish Oil
1 oz. Smoke Fragrance Oil
1/2 oz. Amber Oil
1/2 oz. Gargonola Oil
4 drops Skunk Musk
2 oz. Glycerine Oil

Juicy Fruit (Foxes - Coyote - Bobcat)

1 pint Glycerine Oil
2 oz. Grape Essence Oil
2 oz. Loganberry Essence Oil
1 oz. Persimmon Oil
2 capful Ambrette Musk
2 oz. Beaver Castor
4 capful Valerian Oil
1 capful Catnip Oil
2 capful Amber Oil
2 oz. Fish Oil
1 teaspoon Angelica Root Powder

Hair -o- Dog (Coyote - Fox - Bobcat)

1 pint Coyote Glands
8 oz. Glycerine Oil
1 teaspoon Angelica Root Powder
1 capful Oil of Lovage
1 capful Rue Oil
2 capful Amber Oil
2 capful Catnip Oil

Temescal Coyote Gland (Coyote - Fox)

1 pint Coyote Glands
1 pint Fish Oil
1 oz. Beaver Castor
2 capful Muscaro Musk
1 capful Ambrette Musk
2 capful Valerian Root Oil
1 capful Rue Oil
4 oz. Glycerine Oil

Rude Dude (Coyote - Fox)

1 pint Coyote Glands & Urine
1 pint Fish Oil
2 capful Smoke Fragrance Oil
1 capful Amber Oil
1 capful Orris Root Oil
1 capful Garganzola Oil
1/4 teaspoon Asafoetida Powder
1/4 teaspoon Angelica Root Powder
4 oz. Glycerine Oil

Coyote # 1 Hot Dog (Coyote - Fox)

1 pint Coyote Glands & Urine
8 oz. Glycerine Oil
2 capful Ambrette Musk
1 capful Cummings Oil
4 drops Tonquin Musk
1/2 capful Lovage Oil
1 capful Rue Oil
1/8 oz. Skunk Musk

Hot Dog Fox Gland Lure (Gray Fox / Red Fox)

8 oz. Fox Glands
8 oz Glycerine Oil
1 capful Amber Oil
1 capful Lovage Oil
1 capful Smoke Fragrance
8 oz. Red Fox Urine

Salt & Pepper (Gray Fox - Red Fox)

1 pint Fox Glands
8 oz Glycerine OIl
4 oz. Fish Oil
8 drops Tonquin Musk
1 capful Ambrette Musk
1 capful Muscaro Musk
1 capful Amber Oil
1 capful Valerian Oil

Double MInt (Bobcat - Fox - Coyote - Mink - Marten)

1 pint Glycerine
4 capful Catnip Oil
2 capful Valerian Oil
1 teaspoon Angelica Root Powder
2 capful Ambrette Musk
2 capful Muscaro Musk
1 capful Sweetflag Oil
1/4 capful Rue Oil
1 oz. Beaver Castor

Tenaja Bobcat Gland Lure (Bobcat - Coyote - Fox)

1 pint Bobcat Glands
1 pint Glycerine Oil
1/2 pint Fish Oil
2 capful Bergamot Oil
1/2 capful Cummings Oil
2 capful Valerian Oil
1 capful Orris Root Oil
1 capful Rue Oil
1 capful Catnip Oil
1 capful Muscaro Musk
1 capful Ambrette Musk
1 oz. Beaver Castor & Tonquin Musk

Fruit Valley Gland Lure (Fox - Coyote)

1 pint Glycerine OIl
1 pint Fox Glands
1 pint Fish Oil
1 oz Grape Essence Oil
1/2 oz Persimmon Oil
1/2 oz. Loganberry Oil
1/8 oz. Valerian Root Oil
1 capful Bergamot Oil
1/2 oz Muscaro Musk
1/2 oz Ambrette Musk
1 capful Amber Oil
1/2 capful Sweetflag Oil
1 capful Rue Oil
1 capful Orris Root Oil
1 capful Cummings Oil
1/2 capful Citron Oil
1 teaspoon Angelica Root Powder
5 drops Oil of Lovage
1 oz. Beaver Castor
6 drops Tonquin Musk

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Coyote Scent

Coyote scent:
3 oz. Lanolin
3 oz. seal oil(substitute with trout oil)
1/2 mink musk
1/2 powdered beaver castor
3 grains civit
mix the lanolin and seal oil. add the musk and mix thoroughly. add the civit mix well. Then add castor.

Fox Lure

2 oz. Fish Oil
1 oz. Tonquin
1 oz. Fox Urine

Mix well


Fox Bait

In a Clean Quart Jar add:

Pint finely ground Mice
1 1/2 Cups Rain Water
4 oz. Ground Muskrat Musk
2 oz. Ground Beaver Castor
1/2 oz. Valerian Tincture
1/2 oz. Asafortida Tincture
Almost fill the jar with Fish Oil and 10 to 12 Drops of Skunk Essence.

Mix well

[Flying Trapper]

Holy crap, now that's a reply!!! Thanks for going above and beyond on that one!
This site has been helpful to me and I greatly appreciate it!
Do you guys make all your own lures or just a few? Is it cheaper or equal out in the end? Thinking I may try this next year. Of all the ones you named, which one works the best for you?

[trapperw3]

Thanks I will give it a try

[Lucky&Bugs]

Three of the lures I make use "Black Oil" (Beaver Tail Oil)but as stated above great by itself.

[krank]

There are no hard fast answers. What one man claims is good then another says its bad. Kinda like fishing lures. I hate using purple worms but somebody else will say that's all they use.