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Post by bootheeltrapper26 on Nov 7, 2013 18:36:07 GMT -6
 Some coons from 2011. Looking for corrective criticism. And yes the one coon was caught bobtailed. |
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 7, 2013 18:41:07 GMT -6
Windows WAY too big. Killing the flank fur. Need to see the backs too...
Dale
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Post by bootheeltrapper26 on Nov 7, 2013 18:46:54 GMT -6
I don't have a back pic, these furs are done gone. How big is the fur window suppose to be? These was my first coons I ever did.
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 7, 2013 18:52:28 GMT -6
About half what you've got there! I don't have a good pic, but you need a couple of inches of flank fur on each side... So, three or four inches narrower. Length- just short of the back set of teats on a female, and just short of the BLEEP on the boys. The bob-tail is the closest.
Dale
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 7, 2013 18:55:17 GMT -6
Om my GAWD. Bleep. Really. The peeny. The peeny-hole. My gosh.
Dale
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Post by tjm on Nov 7, 2013 19:22:47 GMT -6
Blush!
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Post by Walleye Joe on Nov 8, 2013 6:54:31 GMT -6
I could tell the windows were way too big.
What about the front legs? Too close?
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Post by supertrap63 on Nov 8, 2013 7:02:47 GMT -6
I think 4 of them will be graded as clear the bob tail an the other have color should grade better Right guys??
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 8, 2013 8:20:03 GMT -6
I don't cut the legs short like that, but that really doesn't impact price.
Dale
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Post by tcrooks on Nov 8, 2013 11:21:18 GMT -6
Can't really tell without a back picture , but a couple of them look like you might have lost a little length with the way their stretched.
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Post by tcrooks on Nov 8, 2013 11:24:48 GMT -6
Also a little more centered on the stretcher wouldn't hurt. Appearance is everything. The one with the really big window is centered perfectly the rest look to be just off to the right a little. You will be surprised at how that will effect the bottom dollar. It shouldn't but it does in Canada.
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Post by bootheeltrapper26 on Nov 8, 2013 12:00:55 GMT -6
I will post a pic I my stretchers later this evening, the guy that was helping me has quit trapping all in all, and that is how he showed me to do it... That's why I was asking for opinions, I knew when veteran fur guys looked at them they would spot the obvious, and that's what I wanted... I am green as they come to putting up fur... and there is no one remotely close that I know that puts up fur...these was put up on a modified wore stretchers.
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Post by bootheeltrapper26 on Nov 8, 2013 12:01:27 GMT -6
*wire stretchers
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Post by tcrooks on Nov 8, 2013 13:35:40 GMT -6
One trick if your using wire. When you pull down the hide with the feet on the stretchers. Pull the tail side first , then pull the leg side. Then pull the fur down where it wraps around the stretcher on the side and use a wooden clothes pin to hold it down on the side. This will help you square up the tail area a bit.
Remember they measure from the nose to the shortest point on the tail side. You don't want to over stretch them but if you can pull it down 1/2 - 1 inch and gain a size. It will pay off in the end.
If you use wooden stretchers. Pull down and Pin the fur on the leg side first , then pull down the sides where it wraps around the stretcher and pin it , then pull down the tail side and pin it. On the tail side when pinning start on the sides of the board and work your way (Pulling down and pinning) towards the tail doing 1 pin on each side and working your way in. Keep it squared off as much as possible. Then stretch and pin the tail as you please starting at the base of the tail and work towards the end alternating from side to side as before.
Many people ask why put it on wood this way and the reason is it will push the fur towards the center of the back right where the buyer is looking at it through the inspection window. It gives the appearance of a thick , full fur.
Don't worry about feeling like you are cheating them as they will reach inside and feel around and look in as well. Just remember "Appearance is Everything" when presenting fur to the buyers. If you handle the fur well and spend a little time on it for appearance it will pay off in the fur check.
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 8, 2013 16:20:12 GMT -6
It's just so hard to tell by just looking at pictures. And again, the back is where the money is. I've have one pic of put-up fur, a week's catch from last season that my wife took. You can see the window size on a couple of 'coon (and some grinners!)-  You can also see the "fullness" of the 'coon from boarding them instead of using wire. And no, I don't pleat my otter tails. Dale |
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Post by trapper7911 on Nov 8, 2013 18:05:12 GMT -6
 This is more like what the window should be. |
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Post by bootheeltrapper26 on Nov 11, 2013 0:05:51 GMT -6
Thank you all I have a way better understanding now... Thanks!
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 11, 2013 0:35:01 GMT -6
Yup. That's the way (that knot thru me for a second). Thanks, Indy.
Dale
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Post by trapper7911 on Nov 11, 2013 8:02:56 GMT -6
Yup gotta love good old lowes top choice pine lumber. I made a coyote board with it and had a knot on the side in just the right spot that a small or standard size coyote would always need a pin right in the middle of that knot. Incidentally pine wood with a lot of animal oils in it makes a nice warm heat
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 11, 2013 8:49:15 GMT -6
I'll bet it does.
Dale
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