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Post by coonsnagger on Dec 9, 2014 11:28:57 GMT -6
I got coni shy beaver. Been trapping ths hole since season started I started using snares. Every time I check the snare is still connected to wire but loop is shut. I'm about 3 inches off bottom and have shrunk loop to 6 in. Or so. Any ideas?
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Dec 9, 2014 16:23:40 GMT -6
If you've been trapping the same "hole" this whole time, good luck. I'm not good enough to help you out here, not at all. Beaver get SMART. Really smart...
D.W. Verts- Bigfoot Trapper
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Post by bverboy on Dec 9, 2014 16:30:05 GMT -6
try again in march....... maybe they will forget by then
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Post by bigbob on Dec 9, 2014 16:55:22 GMT -6
Maybe the wind keeps shutting the loop. Try adjusting the set up so the lock is a little more on the back side of "Top Dead Center".
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Post by bigjohn on Dec 9, 2014 18:14:10 GMT -6
First off snares have to be completely submerged so that rules out wind shutting them. If you are using CRs then you have to have the bottom of the loop 6 inches of the ground to be legal. Too high to catch a beaver on dry ground
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Dec 9, 2014 20:18:30 GMT -6
Sooooo... (I've NEVER had THIS thought before). What about a CR in the WATER?
D.W. Verts- Bigfoot Trapper
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Post by supertrap63 on Dec 9, 2014 20:25:37 GMT -6
Maybe the wind keeps shutting the loop. Try adjusting the set up so the lock is a little more on the back side of "Top Dead Center". bob its under watter ya yoyo. |
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Post by bigjohn on Dec 9, 2014 20:25:46 GMT -6
Much easier to work within the regs than to try to get around them. Cheaper too if a warden checks on you.
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Dec 9, 2014 20:27:44 GMT -6
Does it say in the regs that CR's have to be on dry soil? I haven't looked.
D.W. Verts- Bigfoot Trapper
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Post by bigjohn on Dec 9, 2014 20:34:38 GMT -6
Nope sure doesn't but the regs imply use for taking K-9s and cats,so I'd say a game warden would treat it as if it were a snare. I'd say most GW would issue a citation,so why risk it? If a person wants to snare beaver,then they should learn to do it right.
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Dec 9, 2014 20:48:18 GMT -6
So a CR, set in the water, wouldn't be "right"? Just discussing. I'd bet, Clay notwithstanding, that most Agents wouldn't know the difference.
D.W. Verts- Bigfoot Trapper
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Post by bigjohn on Dec 9, 2014 21:01:43 GMT -6
Oh I don't know about that Dale. We have quite a few GW that trap here in central and north Mo.One only has to read the regs to see that CRs aren't for use in the water.
Like a guy told me once....."Being right isn't always easy but is always right".
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Post by tjm on Dec 9, 2014 22:34:21 GMT -6
I think since snares require a deer stop (why??), the only differance from a CR would be the BAD, loop size, entanglement and location. Didn't look it up but don't recall any prohibition of BAD on snares. I think a CR set under water would be a snare.
Not the wind but could be water current or trash or vertical positioning.
Since I don't normally use either my oppinions are likely worthless.
That discusion aside, I'd give that "hole" a rest. Unless it's a "remove all" contract, time is better spent on critters that are still ignorant of traps and trappers.
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Post by kmiller on Dec 10, 2014 6:48:09 GMT -6
the 660 super bears really shine in this situation... the larger opening will usually take them even shy's
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Post by bigbob on Dec 10, 2014 17:33:15 GMT -6
Maybe the wind keeps shutting the loop. Try adjusting the set up so the lock is a little more on the back side of "Top Dead Center". bob its under watter ya yoyo. LOL, your right, I've got CRD's on the brain right now. |
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Post by coonsnagger on Dec 10, 2014 20:11:33 GMT -6
Again this morning... I don't know what to do. I even completely camoed the conis. I have no idea. I'm going to try a dam break set. With a leg hold on a drowner. My last idea I got
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Dec 10, 2014 20:33:48 GMT -6
Seriously. Go trap somewhere else.
D.W. Verts- Bigfoot Trapper
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Post by kmiller on Dec 11, 2014 7:12:57 GMT -6
DW,
maybe he is doing a complete extraction... most of the beaver work I have done was that way... especially in small ponds in momma's back yard
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Post by supertrap63 on Dec 11, 2014 7:38:24 GMT -6
I"ve had luck with the old apple trick 1/2 green apple wired to a stick at the waters edge place trap in a pocket 3" under water right in front of apple must be on a drownder thay like apples.
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Post by coonsnagger on Dec 11, 2014 9:10:33 GMT -6
I"ve had luck with the old apple trick 1/2 green apple wired to a stick at the waters edge place trap in a pocket 3" under water right in front of apple must be on a drownder thay like apples. won't I just catch a muskrat? |
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