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Post by login on May 30, 2013 14:14:12 GMT -6
I know I did a nice job on your coon , however 2500 coon is a big number and I'm convinced no matter what they say , buyers get a harsher grade than trappers !!! Good luck my good friend !!! Durham, NAFA graders don't know or even care where the pelts come from or even know who sent them, they all get graded equal and the same no matter who's pelts they are. The thing about it is, "A TRAPPER" don't have "A FUR BUYER'S" quantity of fur that they send in, so a trapper will take more time in a quality job on their pelts then a fur buyer that has many hands putting up their pelts. |
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Post by robertw on May 30, 2013 17:36:19 GMT -6
Your coons are already mixed up with 400 other peoples coons when they are graded.
All pelts are bar coded (have a bar code stapled to the face of the pelt and are sized by Mexicans and sorted into bins of the same size before they are graded.
The grader has no idea who owns the coons or where they came from other than from his knowledge of what the fur looks like.
Been there and watched these coons being graded many times.
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Post by trkyslyr on May 30, 2013 17:39:42 GMT -6
So, after they are graded, are they lotted into like grades and then auctioned??? I looked and some of my "lots" say 1600 pelts... I reasonably assumed that is the way they are auctioned....
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Post by login on May 30, 2013 17:57:05 GMT -6
Exactly Don. If there are 1600 pelts in a lot and that lot is sold for $10, then each pelt is baught for $10. So that buyer just paid $16,000 for that lot, not just for $10.
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Post by login on May 30, 2013 17:59:46 GMT -6
But then again, there might be several lots sold at the same time, not just one lot at a time.
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Post by krank on May 30, 2013 21:22:19 GMT -6
I got some frustration and I am going to figure it out. I have sold coon that had bullet holes and tick bites and were half-hearted scraped and they graded select and I got twice what I expected. I have seen other hide that were scraped as clean as a whistle and no holes and bright fur and they were deemed "damaged". I dont get it but I will figure it out. I am second year on NAFA. I do enjoy putting up fur and will stay on it. I have sold for years to country buyers and learned quick what they liked and didnt like. Nafa is a "silent" buyer. The only way to learn is keep on trying. BTW-NAFA still has a higher average than local buyers.
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Post by 64bobcat on May 31, 2013 3:12:14 GMT -6
X2 on that, as said early , it is very hard to figure out exactly what they want ,all we can do is keep doing like
we have been doing and hope for the best..... I can not figure out the otters , I sent 12 in and had 4 graded
singed, all off them was handled and put up the same way, so go figure .....
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Post by krank on May 31, 2013 12:25:05 GMT -6
I think singed means the guard hairs are curled up at the end.
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Post by robertw on May 31, 2013 17:53:35 GMT -6
Don't worry about the otter singe. (obviouslly do everything you can when handling the pelt to avoid causing it).
A couple of years ago before the market tanked on otter I had a singed otter top the sale for $210. Framed that toplot certificate and put it on the wall for a year. Then the following February my otter AVERAGED $196, then in May, they sold about 20% of them for $110 and took three years to sell the remaining otter,the last ones brought $40.
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Post by silverfox on Jun 1, 2013 6:42:08 GMT -6
Red Foxies are all that sells today. I only have 15 up there but they should do well.
Tomorrow is the day that everything auctions except the cats and yotes. Hope everything sells out!
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Post by bverboy on Jun 1, 2013 6:50:44 GMT -6
when do coons sell?
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Post by trkyslyr on Jun 1, 2013 7:03:00 GMT -6
I haven't been able to pull up the schedule for days now... I think the rats and coons sell tomorrow, if I remember right....
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Post by bverboy on Jun 1, 2013 7:18:52 GMT -6
just looked. that's right. I haven't had any trouble pulling up the schedule, but I cant get on this website sometimes for days....
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Post by login on Jun 1, 2013 7:40:00 GMT -6
Well, from what I see for today (June 1st)is "ranch mink" "ranch fox" and "wild fur" (Marten (Can/Am Sable), Red Fox, Grey Fox, Fisher, Raccoon)...
(June 2nd) Muskrat, Mink, Otter, Beaver, Lynx Cat, Lynx
(June 3rd) Coyote, Cross Fox, Silver Fox, White Fox, Kitt Fox, Squirrel, Ermine,
Badger, Opossum, Skunk, Ringtails
(June 4th) Wolverine, Cougar, Timber Wolf, Bears
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Post by bverboy on Jun 1, 2013 7:50:07 GMT -6
what ya see is not always what you get!! rfox selling around 3 today. then it picks back up tmo with grays. that's what ive been told anyway...lol
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Post by silverfox on Jun 1, 2013 9:26:18 GMT -6
what ya see is not always what you get!! rfox selling around 3 today. then it picks back up tmo with grays. that's what ive been told anyway...lol Foxy Redheads will be selling soon!! They are next to go! saturday, june 1st Ranch Mink / Ranch Fox / Wild Fur 8:00 AM Black Female 250,000 Demi/Wild Female 322,000 Sable 45,000 Ranch Fox 6,000 Wild Red Fox 40,000 Sunday, june 2nd Wild Fur 8:00 AM Grey Fox 20,000 Fisher 7,500 Raccoon 500,000 Musquash 350,000 Wild Mink 35,000 Otter 20,000 Beaver 110,000 Monday, june 3rd Wild Fur 8:00 AM Lynx Cat 20,000 Lynx 4,000 Coyote 110,000 Wild Cross, Silver & Sundry Fox 500 Squirrel 36,000 Ermine 26,000 Badger 5,000 Opossum 16,000 Skunk 2,000 tuesday, june 4th Wild Fur 8:00 AM Wolverine 110 Bears 175 Timber Wolf 625 |
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Post by login on Jun 1, 2013 15:00:48 GMT -6
Just made $112 on the 2 flat red fox I sent in. $62 for one and $50 for the other. Im very happy with that.
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Post by bverboy on Jun 1, 2013 15:36:31 GMT -6
$66 on flat red and $52 on frosty.
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Post by robertw on Jun 1, 2013 17:07:47 GMT -6
It would be nice if we could see this trend carry over to coon!
Right now there is a real demand for semi heavy and flat fox that can be used to make garments out of. The heavies are to heavy to make a complete garment out of and are mainly used for trim. We witnessed this in the 80s.
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Post by 64bobcat on Jun 2, 2013 0:28:32 GMT -6
You guy reds are alot better out their.... I do have some grey's in the hunt that should do well...... for grey's
congrat's on the good prices....
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