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Post by krank on Jan 5, 2017 20:58:45 GMT -6
TJM....you are the second guy to ask about Dales clean traps. Its almost like Dale is an equipment dealer and demos using new traps.
Traps are like guns. Some guy can say it don't matter and any old mechanism is fine and another can show you the finer points and how theres no reason to put up with a heavy pull or excessive creep. The reward is accuracy and effectiveness. About the only trap I don't mod is a #4 beaver trap but thinking about that I still level the pan and get rid of the swing set chain.
An old machinist told me once that "theres no time lost whetting".....
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Post by tjm on Jan 5, 2017 22:20:34 GMT -6
of topic, sorry
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Post by krank on Jan 6, 2017 7:29:55 GMT -6
Not Dale....He might sell a dozen and sit down with the customer and nightlatch them....
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Post by tjm on Jan 6, 2017 11:17:31 GMT -6
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Post by raymond on Jan 6, 2017 11:31:16 GMT -6
Pan creep , means the pan moves a little before firing . Proper night latching will eliminate that.
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Post by tjm on Jan 6, 2017 12:03:41 GMT -6
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Post by bigjohn on Jan 6, 2017 12:21:19 GMT -6
Tightening the tension nut will eliminate pan wobble. As far as dog slop closing the eye up some will get rid of that.
When setting exposed cat traps, the pan tension allows the cat to put a little pressure on the pan before fully committing his full weight on the trap. A cat always seems to be weighing each step it takes, especially when stalking.
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Post by krank on Jan 8, 2017 10:35:58 GMT -6
Last week I had several traps dug up around the pan with the pan cover pulled off. One trap was out of the bed and flipped upside down but not set off. Had one set approached from the back and dug out the bait. Working on lessening the pan travel on all my traps now. I've already got good pan tension but with my pan covers sometimes the trap goes off while trying to pack dirt in the jaws. I tried using a trappers cap but too much dirt still got under the pan. Waxed dirt is tough to impossible to pack. Just had a thought.....We have pondered scent and pan sensitivity and too much other stuff. Do your sets look natural? If you got too much stuff going on with your sets then that makes suspicion. I see some pictures of sets that look like a carnival. They got feathers and fur and bones and 5 different lures and bait and logs and sticks everywhere. Too gaudy. Your set should look natural. A dirt-scent hole ought to look just like a mouse hole and your flat set should look like nothing. Nothing wrong with a combination of scent and eye appeal but keep it real. |
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Post by trkyslyr on Jan 8, 2017 11:22:12 GMT -6
Gaudy is GREAT for my little kitty cats  |
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Post by krank on Jan 8, 2017 11:27:36 GMT -6
Yup.....I was talking yotes and fox. Yeah Don, you are right and I wasn't thinking cats. Maybe it was your carnival I saw?
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Post by trkyslyr on Jan 8, 2017 12:28:23 GMT -6
maybe... I like carnivals in the woods, all by myself |
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Jan 8, 2017 18:52:42 GMT -6
I can't even FIND most of my Coyote sets... Unless there's a critter in them I have a hard time pinpointing them from ten feet away.
Some of my 'cat sets, I can see from here. From my desk, at home. Right now. They're a little loud.
Dale
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Post by jiml on Jan 8, 2017 21:02:26 GMT -6
Yeah my cat sets stick out like a sore thumb, but my coyote sets are usually blended in pretty good. Like Dale, most times I step back and think, Oh boy this one'll be hard to find if there's no catch. Usually the backing gives it away though. As for scents the most I'd use is a bait, lure, maybe some urine. Don't like using feathers for coyotes maybe a bone or stone.
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Post by krank on Jan 9, 2017 7:57:43 GMT -6
The best you can do is "Keep on keeping on".
Maybe a critter got wise to one set and that set had a certain lure so now it associates that smell as being a trap so it looks for it.
That opens a discussion for who uses the same lure on all sets as opposed to alternating lures....
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Post by bigjohn on Jan 9, 2017 14:52:55 GMT -6
The past 2 seasons I used mostly only 2 lures(no bait) and didn't notice any refusal because of it. Many times gang setting I just used the same lure at all the sets. If your on a good location and your lure or bait has been producing, no need for using multiple scents IMO. If you have more confidence in multiple then go for it.
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Post by krank on Jan 9, 2017 15:00:35 GMT -6
I use multiple just because I am a bait-making freak and always making something.
My fear is a crafty varmit getting wind of a set and running the line identifying by scent. Having said that and thought about it then I would think eventually the outlaw would get caught.
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Jan 9, 2017 16:56:22 GMT -6
I'm staying out of this one.
Dale
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Post by bverboy on Jan 9, 2017 17:27:07 GMT -6
not me.. I was watching piketrapper make a set sunday and 2 yotes 10yds away were fighting over who was gonna get to the set first.. he was using cracklins
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Post by bigjohn on Jan 9, 2017 17:56:02 GMT -6
Mike, the pouch on my 5 gal bucket has a pocket for 2 lures and urine. I like to keep things simple for the sake of efficiency. If I would have refusals the lure would be the last thing I'd fault if they had been producing. When the dogs start showing a tendency to pairing, I'd change one of those lures to a gland lure.
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Post by bverboy on Jan 9, 2017 18:46:04 GMT -6
whats your go to call lure bj?
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