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Post by tryinhard on Nov 29, 2015 21:59:17 GMT -6
I may have asked this before but has anyone skinned a muskrat like a beaver? If so do they come out oval like a beaver?
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Post by bverboy on Nov 30, 2015 3:31:22 GMT -6
I think so
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Post by silverfox on Nov 30, 2015 8:14:19 GMT -6
I may have asked this before but has anyone skinned a muskrat like a beaver? If so do they come out oval like a beaver? Yes, they do come out oval like a beaver. I have had a few novices skin their muskrats that way. They would be easy to finish and tan and would make beautiful little wall hangers or could be hooped like a beaver. With this market, maybe that is the way to go with some of our rats this year. |
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Post by tjm on Nov 30, 2015 9:04:34 GMT -6
and coons will be rectangles, I recall the traveling buyer many years ago telling me they now wanted cased coons. Still don't know why, squares are easy to ship.
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Post by bigjohn on Nov 30, 2015 11:21:28 GMT -6
Always wondered that same thing Trevis. Anybody got an idea why that changed?
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Post by silverfox on Nov 30, 2015 15:16:06 GMT -6
Always wondered that same thing Trevis. Anybody got an idea why that changed? Great question! I am guessing people ran out of barn wall space and discovered stretchers full of coon are quicker and easier to deal with. But, that open coon era was before this ole man's time. My dad used to talk about it. |
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Post by tjm on Nov 30, 2015 15:33:12 GMT -6
May be that Marc is on to something with the barn walls, all steel shells make it hard to tack up. But I think it had to do more with shift of market. Mo. and La. were centers of fur then they were not.
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Post by bverboy on Nov 30, 2015 19:22:38 GMT -6
im guessing easier to handle cased over square fur... and only 2 things need to be seen to grade a coon.. the leather and the inspection window...
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Post by krank on Nov 30, 2015 19:49:07 GMT -6
I dunno why they wouldn't take square hides. Them furriers just cut strips off the back and pitch the rest.
Marc is right though. Its easier to case and stretch rather than need a 50 ft long wooden wall.
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Post by bigjohn on Nov 30, 2015 20:54:46 GMT -6
Don't think they pitch anything Mike. I'm sure those Chinese use every scrap of fur. Much of the cheap fur and scraps are used in novelty items, trinkets, and linings in cheaper clothing.
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Post by krank on Dec 1, 2015 18:05:28 GMT -6
Years ago your domestic furriers picked sections and pitched the rest.
The Chinese probably make underwear and all sorts of stuff from any scrap. I will also bet they take everything else and grind it up into "protein supplement".......
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Post by trapper660 on Dec 1, 2015 21:35:33 GMT -6
Don't think they pitch anything Mike. I'm sure those Chinese use every scrap of fur. Much of the cheap fur and scraps are used in novelty items, trinkets, and linings in cheaper clothing. I wondered what kind of fur was on those handcuffs I bought the wife.  |
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Post by silverfox on Dec 2, 2015 9:25:47 GMT -6
Don't think they pitch anything Mike. I'm sure those Chinese use every scrap of fur. Much of the cheap fur and scraps are used in novelty items, trinkets, and linings in cheaper clothing. I wondered what kind of fur was on those handcuffs I bought the wife. Fur handcuffs? Please don't ever let my wife know they have handcuffs with fur? Stainless steel is all she has ever known! Leave it up to trapper660 and me to kill a great thread!! haha |
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Post by tjm on Dec 2, 2015 17:13:53 GMT -6
Don't think they pitch anything Mike. I'm sure those Chinese use every scrap of fur. Much of the cheap fur and scraps are used in novelty items, trinkets, and linings in cheaper clothing. How come they don't buy feral cats? Used to a good market for the cheaper furs. |
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Post by silverfox on Dec 2, 2015 19:58:53 GMT -6
Don't think they pitch anything Mike. I'm sure those Chinese use every scrap of fur. Much of the cheap fur and scraps are used in novelty items, trinkets, and linings in cheaper clothing. How come they don't buy feral cats? Used to a good market for the cheaper furs. Can't buy sell or do anything to feral cats but most folks pop em in the head and throw em in the weeds. PETA and the handwringers who control them have ensured no cat can be bought or sold. I'm sure there are a few wise folks on the forum that know the exact rules and regs! I don't but do know they cannot be bought or sold! Same with worthless dogs!! Guess it is a good deal that most folks don't know the rules and keep poppin the ferals. OK to promote the killing of feral hogs, but feral dogs and cats have a huge impact on our ecosystems! |
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Post by krank on Dec 2, 2015 20:13:06 GMT -6
There was the guy in Iowa that was grinding up rats and feeding to cats and then skinning cats and grinding up carcass to feed to rats. People got all boo-hoo like he was doing something wrong. Shut him down.
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Post by silverfox on Dec 3, 2015 16:22:24 GMT -6
About four years ago, I had a young trapper take the day off of school and his parents brought him to the fur shed to sell his first season's catch. He was probably about 12 years old but very great person and smart kid. He told me his grampa had shown him how to skin. He had a beaver that was perfectly skinned! He also had a nice bobcat, a pretty red fox, some coons, and several muskrats that were ventral skinned just like the beaver! ugh! Being the nice guy I was, I calmly explained to him that the beaver was well skinned and he needed to skin his other animals cased. He was almost in tears cause it was his first season ever and his parents worked hard to console him. I told him, since I bought so few cats, coons, and reds skinned that way, I'd give him market price and have them tanned! He and his parents were excited. I had a good friend tan them for me at no charge and later in the summer I sent him his first catches tanned as a gift. He sent me the nicest, well written cursive thank you letter that I could imagine and every season after that he has brought in piles of perfectly skinned furs! Last year he drove up without his parents, and had his first girlfriend with him. He was strutting his stuff and she was very patronizing. But, when it came time to give him is 385.14 for his furs, I gave him the .14 and handed his girlfriend the $385. Haha I told him that's how the world works so get used to it!! haha
Hope he comes back this year!!
Bet they had a great ride home!!
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Post by silverfox on Dec 3, 2015 16:55:00 GMT -6
By the way, the .15 not .14 was for a squirrel tail. haha
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Post by bigjohn on Dec 3, 2015 17:02:50 GMT -6
Treating younguns a little better than others for their fur used to be how great furbuyers just were.
Guess this would put you in that class Marc! Good for you.
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Post by silverfox on Dec 3, 2015 17:10:09 GMT -6
Treating younguns a little better than others for their fur used to be how great furbuyers just were. Guess this would put you in that class Marc! Good for you. If great fur buyer means I made money doing it, I would definitely never qualify! But, I have a soft spot for high quality kids who are going to continue to maintain our populations so maybe they continue to exist so their kids can enjoy the pleasure of a #2 snapping on their cold fingers on a January morning! haha Thanks for the post, Big Bad John!! Hope you're catching lots of yotes!! And, of course, lots of high priced raccoons!! haha Silverfox |
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