|
|
Post by jiml on Aug 5, 2015 13:16:53 GMT -6
How does anyone rig there chains with shock springs. I received a dozen in the mail and would like to try them this fall. I normally use disposable stakes and have had coyotes stretch the quick links open from lunging I guess. I'm hoping the springs remedy this problem.
|
|
|
|
Post by krank on Aug 5, 2015 18:59:44 GMT -6
Let somebody else tell you the importance of short chains and how to rig springs. What I want to know is what happened on the quick links? If they are good quality and you tighten the barrel nut with pliers then I don't see anything breaking that. It would take a lot of pull.....Here are the facts from F&T....
Quick Links
Quick Links are available in three sizes. The small quick links have a working load limit of up to 220 lbs., are made of 1/8" steel, have an overall length of 1 7/16", and have a jaw opening of 1/8".
The large quick links have a working load limit of up to 620 lbs., are made of 3/16" steel, have an overall length of 1 15/16", and have a jaw opening of 1/4".
The extra large quick links have a working load limit of up to 1,540 lbs., are made of 5/16" steel, have an overall length of 3 7/8", and have a jaw opening of 3/8".
|
|
|
|
Post by deerruntrapper on Aug 5, 2015 20:42:41 GMT -6
I'm a short chain fan but a few guys I know say a coyote will pump stakes out with a short chain. Opinions?
|
|
|
|
Post by jiml on Aug 6, 2015 3:18:30 GMT -6
Krank I found a coyote in a trap last year and the small size quick link was stretched open like a "C". I did a test and drove an earth anchor attached a trap with quick link and pulled. Now I'm only a 130 lbs. man and it didn't take much to pull that quick link open. I could pull it open without much force from one arm. I can only imagine the coyote lunging to open the link. My chains are only about 9 inches long so it's not like they've got a lot of room to get a good run. I'm just afraid a link is going to pop and there's not much left to hang up or act as a drag.
|
|
|
|
Post by jiml on Aug 6, 2015 3:24:35 GMT -6
I was using the small quick links. I figured that they would have the same holding power as a cable restraint break away so they should hold a coyote. Guess I won't be doing any more figuring.
|
|
|
|
Post by krank on Aug 6, 2015 15:08:57 GMT -6
Cold shuts (Lapp links) are a bit stronger. I use the medium Qlinks and have used them to join log chain together.
|
|
|
|
Post by bverboy on Aug 6, 2015 16:57:51 GMT -6
I'm a short chain fan but a few guys I know say a coyote will pump stakes out with a short chain. Opinions? If its staked yes. Earth anchor, i aint never seen it |
|
|
|
Post by bverboy on Aug 6, 2015 17:00:27 GMT -6
Heavy duty split rings are tough too but quick links are the way to go for me. Now waddell and big john are the experts. Follow their instructions
|
|
|
|
Post by krank on Aug 6, 2015 19:42:05 GMT -6
I need to be able to remove the trap while the stake is frozen down. Otherwise I have to leave the trap behind till thaw on a spoiled set.
|
|
|
|
Post by adccoyote on Aug 12, 2015 19:06:13 GMT -6
Put the shock spring as close to your anchor point SS you can get it, as that is where all the force is not at the trap proper. I like JC corners shock springs and long link connect them with a crunch proof no way a coyote is going to open this up what so ever.
|
|
|
|
Post by bverboy on Aug 12, 2015 19:13:29 GMT -6
who else makes shock springs besides jc?
|
|
|
|
Post by gunsmoke71 on Aug 12, 2015 20:59:30 GMT -6
who else makes shock springs besides jc? Paws-I-Trip(PIT) Ed makes two different styles w/ three different weights of pull. |
|
|
|
Post by jiml on Aug 16, 2015 14:42:59 GMT -6
I built my chains for my new no.2s. I've got a crunch proof swivel, 2 links of no.3 chain, a jc conner shock spring, 2 more links of chain, and another crunch proof swivel. I have to weld on my base plates still and decide if I'm using double stakes or earth anchors. Then I'll attach the chains to the baseplate.
|
|
|
|
Post by bverboy on Aug 16, 2015 15:16:01 GMT -6
carlis is making a shock spring but I haven't seen it yet...
|
|
|
|
Post by krank on Aug 16, 2015 18:43:30 GMT -6
Wouldn't take much to make a shock spring. Pick a spring out of the catalogue and punch two T-shaped pieces with an eyelet out of ten gauge sheet.
|
|
|
|
Post by bverboy on Aug 16, 2015 19:19:33 GMT -6
I would make me some but I got too much shit to do.....
|
|
|
|
Post by krank on Aug 16, 2015 19:28:42 GMT -6
Too labor extensive to create in the shop and too much of a tooling cost to go with a metal fab vendor unless you make 1000 to break even. I just don't use them and I am happy.......
|
|
|
|
Post by bverboy on Aug 16, 2015 19:41:56 GMT -6
I don't use them either but I would if I had them.. maybe carlis will let me test some.....
|
|
|
|
Post by mmaxwell on Aug 17, 2015 19:19:14 GMT -6
I have shock springs on a few traps and I have no clue if they make a difference or not, they look cool though  I think the nut on a quick link has to spin loose first then it straightens out. I use a few quick links on coon traps and I use a wrench to tighten the nut tight. |
|
|
|
Post by krank on Aug 17, 2015 19:26:09 GMT -6
I carry pliers and always tighten the nut on a quick link and never pulled one apart. Coons are smart enough to unscrew things. I used to have a trailcam video of a coon unscrewing a jar.
I think it was dumb old Dale that said a coon will not work on the stake end. He works on the other end near the trap.
|
|
Goodbye 2020