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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 4, 2014 11:17:58 GMT -6
ok if we aren't allowed to have one more inch for easier coon trapping on land, could Conservation dept. at least let us put 160s or 220s in trees? like 5 feet up a leaning tree? we can put 330s in buildings that way more likely to catch cats.
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Post by bigjohn on Nov 4, 2014 12:08:35 GMT -6
Often wondered if ANYONE reads the regs on conibears
A. No conibear or other killing -type traps with a jaw spread greater than 5" shall be used in any dry land set.
B. Conibear or other killing-type trap with a jaw spread not greater than 8" may be set 6' or more above ground level in buildings.
C. Conibear or other killing- type trap of any size may be set under water.
How do you possibly get that we can set a 330 out of the water in any way,shape,or form?
Sorry if this sounds harsh,but not paying attention and knowing the regs is what lost us conibears on the ground in the first place.
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Post by bverboy on Nov 4, 2014 14:58:05 GMT -6
boy oh boy snagger
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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 4, 2014 16:38:27 GMT -6
Could have sworn it said 10. I read every year before season I'll check when I get home... I was told was 10 recently hadn't checked yet. Regardless what do you think about the idea. I put baits up in trees all the time to get scent out and it's always ate up and messed with |
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Post by bverboy on Nov 4, 2014 16:44:06 GMT -6
where you located at?? aint gonna happen
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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 4, 2014 16:46:24 GMT -6
Well heck college is frying my brain... it's 8 inches alright
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Post by login on Nov 4, 2014 17:37:13 GMT -6
I was wondering why I was getting 220's snapped on my feet last season, by just walking down game trails. Now I know.
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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 4, 2014 21:14:03 GMT -6
where you located at?? aint gonna happen St Louis side |
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Post by ozarkmountainman on Nov 5, 2014 7:24:13 GMT -6
There are a lot easier ways to catch 'coon than trying to balance a wrist-pinchin' BG in a tree. Of course, I may be biased. I can't REACH six feet. (there, beat ya'll to it, didn't I?)
I know a lot of newer guys want to try Novelty sets, but it really pays to learn the basics and hit it hard.
Dale
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Post by pops on Nov 5, 2014 8:26:31 GMT -6
IMO a foot hold or a DP trap set at the base of the same tree would catch the same coon you wanted to catch in the BG trap.
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Post by bigjohn on Nov 5, 2014 11:41:13 GMT -6
I totally agree with the above 2 posts. It can sometimes be hard to convince a coon to work a set on the ground,let alone trying to get it into a tree. If it's a den tree,a simple blind set in the path leading to the tree will pick it up.
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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 5, 2014 13:10:18 GMT -6
Yes but I trap alot in city limits. I cannot discharge a firearm or any projectile. So I have to pass up plenty of opportunities because there's no place to run drowners. And a conibear in a tree is alot less likely to catch a dog then a 155 on the ground
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Post by jiml on Nov 5, 2014 15:55:52 GMT -6
Snagger you need to invest in some cages. I caught a couple coons from a friend's attic last year in Overland, dispatched them right there in the front yard. Not advising that you try that but a cage dropped in a trashcan full of water is a nice drowning rig.
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Post by bigjohn on Nov 5, 2014 16:37:34 GMT -6
Blunt force trama to the head or a 220 conibear on a pole holder slipped onto their head.
More than one way to skin a cat without getting hair in your mouth,as an old timer once told me.
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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 5, 2014 18:04:10 GMT -6
All these things work and I have tried most. The conibear pole method is a bit time consuming and cages and trash cans are expensive. I'm just saying if it's not as risky for us I would like the option.
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Post by login on Nov 5, 2014 21:33:56 GMT -6
Snagger, there are ways to set 155's on land "in trails" that will discourage a dog from wanting to go threw it, but a coon would want to die to go threw it. You just gotta figure out "how" to do it.
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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 5, 2014 22:11:16 GMT -6
I have half a dozen Bridger 155s but I've heard that they don't make good trail traps for coons.
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Post by tjm on Nov 6, 2014 8:18:09 GMT -6
my dog will climb any leaning tree that has coon scent on it. Key to bg is in a building or submerged. imo, best sets for coon are blind sets and dirt holes.
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Post by coonsnagger on Nov 6, 2014 10:04:51 GMT -6
And I see what you all are getting at. But if we cannot have 160's on the ground or 220's maybe conservation dept would go for a in the tree method. Or a crlerta in height off of the ground any way you want. Keeps dogs out mostly and it's a middle ground. Then maybe step onto 160s anywhere we want. Within reason obviously.
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Post by bigjohn on Nov 6, 2014 11:25:24 GMT -6
Setting traps within city limits always will have drawbacks. A conibear set in a tree catching an inquisitive kid, or adult for that matter, could very well cost us all conibears.Wouldn't matter what the situation was.
Conibears can't be set within 150 feet of any occupied building or residents in towns with 10,000 or more people.This in itself should tell you something. People mess with other people's stuff all the time and the greater the population,the more likely of this happening.
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